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- From: tsikes@netcom.com (Terry Sikes)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.java,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk
- Subject: Re: Will Java kill C++?
- Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 15:07:38 GMT
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- dshaker@samsara.smalltalk.com (Doug Shaker) wrote:
-
- >In article <315BFB16.B74@isg.de>, Stephan Wolf <wolf@isg.de> wrote:
- >>
- >>I don't know if Java will kill Smalltalk. Many people have invested
- >>quite a lot. There is a good chance that all *real* languages survive.
-
- >The idea that a language (Java) that has been optimized for speed of
- >transmission of binaries over the Internet will rule all applications,
- >forever, is bizarre.
-
- I have to take exception to the idea that the main point of Java
- is small byte-code executables. In fact, this has very little to
- do with Java per se, and lots to do with the JVM.
-
- Java itself is a general purpose language, aimed at much the same
- general application domain as C/C++. This is quite a large area.
-
- >Java is a fine new language that will be used in many situations. The
- >creation of a new language that makes it is a rare event and a cause
- >for celebration. But it isn't going to kill off everything else. If
- >Smalltalk dies, it is more likely to be because the Smalltalk vendors
- >care more about single-quarter profitability than they do about
- >marketshare. Java will only be an innocent bystander.
-
- I'd agree that Java probably won't "kill" other languages. After all,
- lots of programming is still done in COBOL and FORTRAN 77. =) However,
- it will make very significant inroads where other languages are being
- used now. For an interesting evangelical view, see JavaWorld's interview
- with Kim Polese, former head of Java marketing at Sun:
-
- http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-1996/jw-04-polese.html
-
- To quote in part (used without permission):
-
- "I would say just from a standpoint of programming language popularity, I
- think Java is going to replace C++ and is boing to become the language that
- university students learn when they sit down and write their first line of
- code, because it is the best example of what a programming language should
- be. It is an exemplary programming language. It has all the right features
- in it, and it's very elegantly constructed and architected."
-
- From other portions of the discussion its apparent that Sun is busily
- addressing the two areas where Java needs the most work, i.e. performance
- and the overly restrictive security model.
-
- Have a good day!
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